We’re here in the great city of Austin, Texas, where Dylan has decided to take his fully vaccinated self to visit friend and colleague Coby West — technical producer at game dev co-op The Glory Society.

Dylan and Coby discuss their recent forays into tabletop gaming, try to agree on a definition for 2.5D, observe the ongoing Epic v. Apple trial, dive deep into some hands-on with the PlayStation 5 and Astro’s Playroom, and talk about upcoming games they’re excited for.

Games include Super Mario Maker 2, New Pokémon Snap, Blades in the Dark, Gone Home, Paradise Killer, and Astro’s Playroom.