Jay Tholen, designer and developer on Dropsy the Clown, joins Dylan to talk about his experiences in indie game development.

He speaks to us about Dropsy’s evolution from a boss in an action platformer to a choose-your-own adventure on the Something Awful forums to eventually becoming the adventure game it is today, with the Kickstarter successes and failures he had along the way.

We also talk about working with indie publisher Devolver Digital, how to demo your games to game outlets as an indie, his aspirations for his new game – Hypnospace Outlaw, and what themes and ideas he tries to communicate with his games.

Games include Dropsy the Clown and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.