Dylan’s out of town this week, so Mason brought on two of his Brandcenter friends, Alex Rice and Dan Cotting. They come to talk about some of the projects they’re working on. Alex describes his productivity software that incorporates gameplay and narrative in the workplace, and Dan talks about his weekly social event subscription service.

The guys also discuss some of their favorite games from generations both current and past, including what makes the Legend of Zelda series so influential: from its art direction to its story to its gameplay. We also hear about Dan’s defense for his Zelda underdog pick.

Games include Destiny: The Taken King and Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag.